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Born With Out A Concience

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Posted 12 December 2004 - 07:34 AM

i watched an old horror movie called "The Bad Seed" in which a little 7 year old girl goes about and murderes people for simple things like coloring crayons and dolls, she dose this because she was born with out a concience. Now do you think it is possible for someone to be born not knowing right from wrong?
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Posted 12 December 2004 - 08:35 AM

this is hard to explain, cause its a yes and no answer. people are not born with conciences, they develope as they grow, based on the individual's beliefs, upbringing and so on. This may seem a good enough answer but since all people are born with the ability to form a concience, it is kinda for you to decide if a person is theirfor born with one or not.
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Posted 13 December 2004 - 01:04 AM

well some things very from culture to culture as to what is wrong and right. But arnt there basic human instintions that tell you something is wrong. For example, i think that murdering is a natrally wrong thing for humans. And it makes sence that it would be because if you natrual feel its wrong to murder then wont that will benifit human speciaes as a whole, and increase humans chance of survival.
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Posted 13 December 2004 - 05:04 AM

I think they can. A conscience is basically the ability to think while taking others into account, and I think there is a section for that in the brain.
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Posted 16 December 2004 - 12:56 AM

Concience is telling the difference between right and wrong. A person cannot be born with it, it builds up as the years go by.

There is no such thing in not having a concience, everyone has one, weather good or bad.
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Posted 16 December 2004 - 08:25 AM

Couldn't have said it better myself.

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For example, i think that murdering is a natrally wrong thing for humans.


What if a baby killed somebody, they don't know any better.

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Posted 17 December 2004 - 12:31 AM

QUOTE(Amphere @ Dec 15 2004, 10:25 PM)
Couldn't have said it better myself.
What if a baby killed somebody, they don't know any better.
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if a baby were to kill someone, i realy doubt it would be premeditated or out of rage. If a baby were to kill someone the baby would probable be unaware of what they had done. Most children dont comprehend the concept of death till they are 5 years old or so. My aunt recently died, and my little 3 year old brother didnt understand that she was dead, even at the funeral he didnt get it when he saw her body, so i dont think that a baby could even have the capability to purposly murder someone.
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Posted 17 December 2004 - 01:09 AM

QUOTE(tzobell @ Dec 17 2004, 12:31 AM)
if a baby were to kill someone, i realy doubt it would be premeditated or out of rage.  If a baby were to kill someone the baby would probable be unaware of what they had done.  Most children dont comprehend the concept of death till they are 5 years old or so.  My aunt recently died, and my little 3 year old brother didnt understand that she was dead, even at the funeral he didnt get it when he saw her body, so i dont think that a baby could even have the capability to purposly murder someone.
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Thats because they haven't lived long enough to learn any sences.
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Posted 17 December 2004 - 06:08 AM

QUOTE(_TJ_ @ Dec 16 2004, 03:09 PM)
Thats because they haven't lived long enough to learn any sences.
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you cant murder someone if you dont understand the concept of death. Its like trying to do algerbra with out knowing how to add diveide and multiply.
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Posted 17 December 2004 - 07:23 PM

QUOTE(tzobell @ Dec 17 2004, 06:08 AM)
you cant murder someone if you dont understand the concept of death.  Its like trying to do algerbra with out knowing how to add diveide and multiply.
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You can if you don't know what you are doing
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Posted 18 December 2004 - 12:08 AM

babyies arnt stong enough to even kill someone!
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Posted 18 December 2004 - 12:10 AM

QUOTE(tzobell @ Dec 18 2004, 12:08 AM)
babyies arnt stong enough to even kill someone!
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You don't have to have muscles to pull a trigger , besides, thats not the point.
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Posted 18 December 2004 - 12:17 AM

QUOTE(_TJ_ @ Dec 17 2004, 02:10 PM)
You don't have to have muscles to pull a trigger , besides, thats not the point.
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babies are mentaly incapable of planning a murder.
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Posted 18 December 2004 - 12:33 AM

QUOTE(tzobell @ Dec 18 2004, 12:17 AM)
babies are mentaly incapable of planning a murder.
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A Baby has a gun in his hands, he pulls the trigger. He doesn't know what he has done. You can't plan that at all, its one of those things that just happens
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Posted 18 December 2004 - 12:40 AM

QUOTE(_TJ_ @ Dec 17 2004, 02:33 PM)
A Baby has a gun in his hands, he pulls the trigger. He doesn't know what he has done. You can't plan that at all, its one of those things that just happens
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if that happened then the baby isnt realy murdering someone because they were not intentialy shooting the gun at a person, the bullet just happened to hit them unitentialy.
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